{"id":1741,"date":"2010-11-12T11:05:49","date_gmt":"2010-11-12T16:05:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/qballers.com\/blog\/?p=1741"},"modified":"2010-11-12T11:12:41","modified_gmt":"2010-11-12T16:12:41","slug":"qfl2-communist-little-girls-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/12\/qfl2-communist-little-girls-2\/","title":{"rendered":"QFL2 = Communist Little Girls"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Editor&#8217;s Note: <\/strong>This was originally posted as a comment on the article &#8220;QFL2 Almost Collapsed Last Week&#8221; (Posted by The Quince on November 9th, 2010), but per request, I am re-posting as a full article.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Wow. I couldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t disagree more with Tarek\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s points.<\/p>\n<p>1. <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Fines should be administered if an owner is trying to deceive his fellow owners not for simple mistakes that have no baring on the competition.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>No, fines should be administered for breaking the rules, just as they are in any other situation in which there are rules and fines for breaking them. Simple mistakes are still mistakes, whether you meant to do it or not. If I park my car and forget to put money in the meter, I pay a fine, even if I wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t purposefully trying to steal from the county.<\/p>\n<p>2. <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153If his intent is to deceive then the fines should carry an extra 0 at the end of them or a loss of draft picks.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>By suggesting that fines be based on whether or not someone\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s \u00e2\u20ac\u0153intent is to deceive\u00e2\u20ac\u009d you are making it a subjective call that cannot possibly be proven one way or the other rather than an objective call that can be consistently applied. Are you going to ask the commissioner to review every single infraction, perform research on all the scores and how they may have been affected and then interview people in an attempt to evaluate the character of the owner in question and then come up with a totally subjective ruling that could be as light as warning or as heavy as stripping draft picks? That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s absurd.<\/p>\n<p>3. <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153maybe a warning needs to be issued before fines are assessed\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>You don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t need or deserve a warning because you already have been warned via the rules outlined in the constitution. Why should the commissioner have to waste time reminding people of what they should already know?<\/p>\n<p>4. <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153fines carry the impression that the guilty party is trying to cheat.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>No, as things are now, a fine does not carry any impression whatsoever because it is totally objective and not subject to the opinions, emotions or interpretations of anyone. You could be trying to cheat, but you might just be stupid or lazy. It doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really matter. If we do as you propose, then we would be changing it so that a fine does carry an impression of impropriety.<\/p>\n<p>If someone has extenuating circumstances that had an impact on the situation, they can appeal to the commissioner. In my opinion, being stupid, lazy, inattentive or just making a simple mistake doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t qualify as extenuating circumstances, but that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s up to your commissioner (and it always has been). Regardless, it makes much more sense to have only appeals go to the commissioner for subjective judgement rather than having every single infraction go the commissioner by default.<\/p>\n<p>5. <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153If our goal is to increase the pot size then change the price on free agents, or trades.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It is not. The goal in imposing fines is to discourage teams from breaking the rules.<\/p>\n<p>6.<em> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Fines are bad for leagues and creates a poor gaming environment.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Actually, fines are great for leagues and improve the gaming environment by helping to ensure that teams obey the rules that are in place. The rules were put in place to maintain the competitive balance of the league. Whenever I talk to people who are in leagues that they don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t like, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s almost always because there are team owners who are apathetic or negligent. Our rules impose penalties and fines on teams who are apathetic or negligent and the result has been that we have one of the most fun and competitive leagues in existence.<\/p>\n<p>7. <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Qfl really needs to address this matter in its constitution otherwise you will have the same issues unfold every year.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>We\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been doing this for 12 years. In that time we have had one team leave. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t recall hearing any complaints about fines other than that we needed to be make them more severe (which resulted in the $20 invalid roster fine). Throughout the 12 years, we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve had a very successful and competitive league with 9 different winners. If an owner doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t enjoy being in a competitive league, then feel free to join a standard Yahoo league where there is no possibility of breaking any rules, no fines and no one cares if you aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t paying attention.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Editor&#8217;s Note:<\/strong> The following comments were posted in response to the original comment:<\/p>\n<p>November 10, 2010 at 8:28 pm<br \/>\nTed says:<br \/>\n<em>Scott, I do not think it could have been said any better. I too was shocked to read Tariq\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s take on the situation. I think he owes his league a huge apology for being such a big baby. Who threatens to quit a league in week 9 over a $2 fine?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>November 11, 2010 at 1:52 pm<br \/>\nFahQ says:<br \/>\n<em>Tarek \u00e2\u20ac\u201c We go back a long way but i really have to disagree with where you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re coming from on this one. I think Scott is right on the money in terms of fines and the way we enforce our rules. There is good logic behind it. \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Shane<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Editor&#8217;s Note: This was originally posted as a comment on the article &#8220;QFL2 Almost Collapsed Last Week&#8221; (Posted by The Quince on November 9th, 2010), but per request, I am re-posting as a full article.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":140,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,21,19],"tags":[201,94,95],"class_list":["post-1741","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","category-qfl-deuce","category-qfl-nation-news","tag-fines","tag-qfl","tag-qfl2"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1741","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/140"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1741"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1741\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1749,"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1741\/revisions\/1749"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1741"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1741"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.qballers.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1741"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}